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Folks State CCP is ESP light.

I have read alot but make no claim to knowing the rules inside and out. Shooting this past weekend with acomplished shooters I had folks telling me  to put a magwell on my CCP gun. I stated that I did...

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ESP "light" is a concept that works because CCP follows ESP when it comes to allowed modifications, but gun measurements are "lighter" in that the max barrel length, max weight and max thickness are...

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Jay, that is how read read it. I guess alot of folks out there are under some wrong asumptions. thanks, Joe

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I guess they are reading rulebook "lite"

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What I heard was ESP Short. But, width was an issue, sticking point. Some FA are too wide when you measure over the take down lever. And, of course, Ambi-safeties.

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Cutesy names don't have to be accurate. I have heard ESP lite, ESP narrow, Who Cares, etc. I suppose ESP short and skinny is accurate enough

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A lot of clubs probably don't have the new boxes or inserts. So right now they only have one box - that will change soon.

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Dacsoft wrote:A lot of clubs probably don't have the new boxes or inserts. So right now they only have one box - that will change soon.First you would have to have them get rid of the 2005 rulebooks 

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There are magwells that will fit the CCP box, their just aren't very good magwells for non 1911 guns that fit the box.

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If the concern was magwells just making magwells illegal would have solved the problem and eliminated the need to worry about inserts for the box. There maybe other concerns regarding limiting the...

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I believe that both CCP and BUG were announced as "provisional" divisions. Perhaps they will change based on results in 2015 and 2016.

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It would be nice if HQ would actually ask CCP/BUG shooters for their opinions on the new divisions but oh well.  Mark

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I like CCP and enjoy shooting in that division. However, it does not seem to be gaining much in popularity around here. The Arctic Blast sanctioned match in PA was just concluded. I count 111...

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We had 16 shooters (out of 138 total) in CCP this past weekend at the South Mountain Showdown. Six were EX, four were SS, and another six were MM. The division is catching on around here...

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I'm planning on a lot of CCP this year....using my BUG gun. John

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